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Another Accident: Stop Signs for Central_at_(domainremoved)

From: domainremoved <suzan>
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 22:58:11 -0700

Hi Nikki and Justin,

Since I sent the last email, I've seen multiple posts about accidents and
and witnessed two more near misses at the exact intersection I wrote about
to you last year, Central and Elm. Below is an exerpt from yet another long
NextDoor discussion about the accident and how dangerous this intersection
is. Even just painted crosswalk lines would be an improvement (though would
not have prevented the accident this evening). What ever happened with the
evaluation that was done?

Here are some excerpts from the thread that started after the accident this
evening, its really long, I just picked 3 comments out as examples:
-------
There was an accident this evening down that direction on Central. I heard
the squeal as I was at the curb sweeping up debris so I looked up and saw
the apparently big, white car go diagonally across the street, ending up
facing east in the west bound lane of Central. Whether it was Walnut or Elm
I don't know because when I saw someone approach the car I knew they would
call 911 if needed, and indeed the big guns showed up soon thereafter: 2
large firetrucks, multiple police, and finally ambulance. So I stayed out
of the way. Yes, this is not the first time I have seen accidents there,
and I would love to see speed bumps and stop signs on multiple streets.

About a month ago I was nearly hit at Central and Elm. I was walking across
Elm at the corner where there is (or was) a stop sign, and a car went
through at about 30 mph. It actually brushed me aside slightly -- I wasn't
hit, but I don't think the driver even noticed me. He came to a fishtailing
stop down by the school when a car came out of that drive.

It’s interesting that this recent accident with the young girl on the
bicycle (poor girl, I hope the is okay!!) was recorded as her fault for not
stopping at the stop sign as she was on elm crossing central. My own
experience from walking/biking/driving through that intersection daily is
that the people on Elm hover. “Is anyone coming? Should I go?” Sometimes
drivers slow down and wave cyclists to cross, despite having the right of
way.
-------

Thank You,
Suzan

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 8:28 AM suzan szollar <szollar_at_(domainremoved)

> Hi Nikki & Justin,
>
> Following up to check-in on what you determined from your evaluation?
>
> The vegetation was trimmed, but didn't really improve visibility down the
> street, you still have to step into the street to see if a car is coming,
> and cars continue to speed down Central. In other words it still doesn't
> feel safe amongst parents to let our kids cross on their own to get to
> school.
>
> Thank You,
> Suzan
>
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Nagaya, Nicole H <nhnagaya_at_(domainremoved)
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ms. Szollar,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your message and sharing your concerns. I appreciate your
>> concern for safety for schoolchildren and your son crossing Central on his
>> way to Upper Laurel.
>>
>>
>>
>> The installation of stop signs is governed by a set of criteria set by
>> the federal and state governments to make sure they are “warranted” – these
>> criteria include a minimum number of vehicles, bicycles or pedestrians
>> traveling through the intersection at a certain number of hours on a
>> typical day; a history of collisions; and/or a visibility obstruction that
>> can’t otherwise be fixed. We evaluated the number of vehicles, bicycles and
>> pedestrians last school year after Upper Laurel started, and this
>> intersection didn’t meet the criteria for stop signs installation at that
>> time.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, we’ve had staff go back out and take a look at the intersection
>> at Central/Elm and Laurel/Elm this week in response to your message below
>> and from other neighbors in the area. Based on that visit, we are currently
>> working through steps to trim vegetation and remove some street trees that
>> are in poor health or already dead, and we will continue to evaluate the
>> intersection once the landscaping has been removed to check if visibility
>> has been improved. If visibility is not sufficiently improved, we can look
>> at the stop sign request again and advise you of next steps. I’ve
>> summarized the process a bit more below.
>>
>>
>>
>> The stop sign installation would need to be presented to the City’s
>> Complete Streets Commission and City Council for approval; this process
>> takes a minimum of 3-4 months to conduct the evaluation and schedule the
>> meetings prior to installation. Rather than have you create a petition at
>> this point, I’d suggest that we complete our evaluation (approximately 3
>> weeks) and then we can confirm with you next steps and timing. At the point
>> of the Commission/Council meetings, a petition is not required, but can
>> help show the Commissioners and Councilmembers the level of neighborhood
>> support for a stop sign.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any further questions or
>> would like to discuss.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Nikki
>>
>>
>>
>> Nicole H. Nagaya, PE
>>
>> Assistant Public Works Director
>>
>> City of Menlo Park
>>
>> 650.330.6781 <(650)%20330-6781>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* suzan szollar [mailto:szollar_at_(domainremoved)
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 19, 2017 12:16 AM
>> *To:* Nagaya, Nicole H <nhnagaya_at_(domainremoved)
>> JICMurphy_at_(domainremoved)
>> *Subject:* Stop Signs for Central_at_(domainremoved)
>>
>>
>>
>> Nikki and Justin,
>>
>>
>>
>> There was just a NextDoor post today about an accident on Central at the
>> corner with Elm
>>
>> ​. ​
>>
>> I've been meaning for months to contact the city to ask how to request a
>> stop sign:
>>
>> - For Central at the corner of Central and Elm
>> - For Laurel at the corner of Laurel and Elm
>>
>> A few months ago there was an accident on the Laurel/Elm corner and the
>> person from the city who came out said to email the city and get the
>> support of neighbors. I talked to many of my neighbors and they all want
>> the stop signs too. Most of us have kids and it feels unsafe to let them
>> walk to Upper Laurel or even cross the street by themselves to play
>> together. We won't let our son walk to school by himself because he has to
>> cross Central, and you have to walk y into
>>
>> ​the street ​
>>
>> to be able to see if there is a car coming. (We live on the corner of
>> Laurel and Elm).
>>
>>
>>
>> ​Here
>>
>> are some photos and video of th
>>
>> ​​
>>
>> e Central & Elm corner - you can see I have to step into the street to be
>> able to see oncoming traffic
>>
>> :
>>
>> https://goo.gl/photos/NBCQHgquFfjihVeq7​
>>
>>
>>
>> What is the most effective way to request the stop signs? What is the
>> best way to show the support of neighbors? Should I ask them to sign a
>> petition on change.org? It would make this
>>
>> ​part of the Willows
>>
>> feel
>>
>> ​much ​
>>
>> safer for our kids
>>
>> ​, we get so many cars speeding down Central and Laurel​
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> Suzan
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Received on Sun Jun 17 2018 - 16:53:34 PDT

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