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Re: Caltrain Viaduct: Best Option

From: domainremoved <Adrian>
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 08:27:38 -0700

Rich,

That it *can* be done, given enough cash ($billion+ easy) is (and was
never) the question ...

That others like Boston or Seattle or Switzerland or the English
Channel have expensive tunnels is (and never was) the question either ...

If you need one of anything, holding out for the one you cannot possibly
afford is to deny you really need it.

That's what good parents tell their kids who want a Ferrari or
Lamborghini ...

As Mick Jagger sings, "You can't always get what you want ... "

On Thursday, April 6, 2017, Cline, Richard A <RACline_at_(domainremoved)

> Seattle finally sees tunnel light.
>
> https://www.wired.com/2017/04/4-years-seattles-giant-
> tunneling-machine-finally-breaks/
>
> And Elon's push in LA.
>
> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/2017/01/inside-
> tunnel-elon-musk-already-digging-los-angeles/amp/
>
> Bury transit or live with 20th century limitations.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rich Cline
>
> On Apr 6, 2017, at 7:56 AM, Adrian Brandt <adrian.brandt_at_(domainremoved)
> <javascript:;><mailto:adrian.brandt_at_(domainremoved)
>
> Rhetorical question.
>
> If the technology existed to underground an airport and its runways (or a
> freeway for that matter), would it make good sense for city, county, state
> or federal taxpayers to pay both the real and opportunity costs to
> underground it for untold billions to financially and otherwise benefit
> primarily those who earlier freely chose to live in its vicinity?
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 11:31 PM, Robert Cronin <rhcronin_at_(domainremoved)
> <javascript:;><mailto:rhcronin_at_(domainremoved)
> I think that the hybrid options presented at the last City Council meeting
> are acceptable. Tunneling is better in many ways, but very expensive. If
> Menlo Park is serious about wanting the tunnel option, then we should be
> willing to tax ourselves to pay for it.
>
> Robert Cronin
>
>
>
> On 4/5/17 7:43 PM, Mueller, Raymond wrote:
> Good evening,
> I have been reminded I can't ask for reconsideration, because I did not
> vote for the two alternatives that were selected. Only one of the four
> Councilmembers who voted for the two alternatives can make the motion.
> With best regards,
> Ray
> ________________________________________
> From: Mueller, Raymond
> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 3:21:33 PM
> To: Cat Carlton; Cline, Richard A
> Cc: Steve Schmidt; Emily Mibach; price_at_(domainremoved)
> <mailto:price_at_(domainremoved)
> Brandt; mickie650; John Woodell; Robert Cronin; Nagaya, Nicole H;
> dpine_at_(domainremoved)
> Lin, Jean P; Obeso, Angela R
> Subject: Re: Caltrain Viaduct: Best Option
>
> Good afternoon all. I am requesting a motion for reconsideration on the
> selection of design alternatives to be studied for the Ravenswood train
> crossing. I would like to reconsider my vote which may ultimately affect
> the Council's decision on this matter. I would like the motion for
> reconsideration to be heard at the next regularly scheduled Council meeting.
> ________________________________________
> From: Cat Carlton <cat.carlton_at_(domainremoved)
> cat.carlton_at_(domainremoved)
> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 1:25:01 PM
> To: Cline, Richard A
> Cc: Steve Schmidt; Emily Mibach; price_at_(domainremoved)
> <mailto:price_at_(domainremoved)
> Brandt; mickie650; John Woodell; Robert Cronin; Nagaya, Nicole H;
> dpine_at_(domainremoved)
> Lin, Jean P; Obeso, Angela R
> Subject: Re: Caltrain Viaduct: Best Option
>
> As I said last night, I agree with Rich- tunnel and work with the cities
> around us on this.
>
> Catherine
>
> Typoed on my iPhone
>
> On Apr 5, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Cline, Richard A <RACline_at_(domainremoved)
> <javascript:;><mailto:RACline_at_(domainremoved)
>
> Tunnel it. Any other option will be a mistake.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rich Cline
>
> On Apr 5, 2017, at 11:59 AM, Steve Schmidt <menloparksteve_at_(domainremoved)
> <javascript:;><mailto:menloparksteve_at_(domainremoved)
> menloparksteve_at_(domainremoved)
> <javascript:;>>>> wrote:
>
> <MP grade sep II.pages>
>
>
>
> Hi Emily,
> Please print a correction regarding my comments in today's article about
> the Menlo Park grade separation study. Look at the tape of the CC meeting
> starting at about 1:47: I said that I supported a viaduct that grade
> separated all four MP at-grade crossings. I never mentioned a trench or a
> tunnel anywhere in my comments to the Council.
> This is most distressing to me since a viaduct that grade separates
> Caltrain and High Speed Rail in Menlo Park has always been my position.
> I have always opposed a trench or a tunnel as wasteful and impractical.
> Attached is a letter that will further explain my position on this issue.
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
>
>
> Editor:
>
> Post article April 5 "Can't We Have A Tunnel" covered the Menlo Park City
> Council study session on grade separating one or more at-grade street
> crossings of Caltrain. Because my long held belief that the correct choice
> is to elevate the tracks, I was shocked to read an incorrect quote of my
> statement at the meeting.
>
> One option that has been dismissed by MP staff based on anecdotal evidence
> or political consideration is the best option, a viaduct that separates all
> four of Menlo Park's crossings: Ravenswood, Oak Grove, Glenwood and
> Encinal. A viaduct will improve safety, eliminate horn noise, preserve
> access to commercial & residential properties, greatly enhance east-west
> connectivity for bikes and pedestrians and reduce traffic congestion for
> everyone.
>
> We should not think of Menlo Park in isolation. Caltrain is an essential
> part of the Peninsula's transportation system. Atherton stubbornly clings
> to its policy against any elevation of the tracks, which forces Menlo Park
> into choosing between highly flawed alternatives. Menlo Park also held such
> a a policy, but wisdom prevailed. Atherton should think regionally and get
> on board for a modernized Caltrain
>
> A viaduct through Menlo Park is the most practical grade separation
> solution for the City of Menlo Park. Tax dollars being spent on this study
> should include all options and not allow stale political arguments to
> influence the findings of this expensive study. We need a complete analysis
> by Menlo Park's consultant and City Council of this most viable option.
>
> Steve Schmidt
>
>
>
Received on Fri Apr 07 2017 - 08:33:12 PDT

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